I dont know why that would be, unless people are just assuming we ache for something more to nurture. Just to be clear - I meant 'written/given' by women (aka musical number "O My Father" written by Eliza R Snow, conf talk by Reeve/Oscarson/Okazaki). More importantly, which meeting do you thinkwould be more likely to provide meaningful support? As a mother of six kids, Ive had some serious depression about motherhood in general over the years but not usually on Mothers Day. Oh, great. In preparation for the sacrament each week, Church members take time to examine their lives and repent of sins. For example, look at how Mothers Day and Mothering Day each have a religious as well as a secular component to them, and have even merged: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother's_Day, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothering_Sunday. Being Both a Disciple & a Daughter: Balancing Formality in Prayer. With a purpose firm and willing, Talk topics could be: - examples in the scriptures (Eve, Ruth, Naomi, Esther, Sarah, Mary, Sariah, etc), - early Saints (Lucy Mack, Emma, Eliza R Snow, Aurelia Rogers, etc), - influence of (teachers, nurses, aunts, grandmas, etc). Although the later version of Mothers Day in the US was to honor mothers, it retained its association with peace as carnations were given out as a symbol of peace (white if ones mother was dead, pink if alive). The rest of us mortals should stick with real.. It will easily demonstrate the weaknesses in the position: The logic is faulty. Mother's Day became the hardest day of the year for me. Primary kids sang Im so glad when Mommy comes home refreshing change. Not an official website of the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Very useful counsel, Mark. It is not a bad thing and it might be the one day that young mothers will remember and enjoy the most. This change wasnt well-received as it occurred without any advance notice. If you take one thing away from this not-so-scientific survey, it is, when in doubt, go with chocolate. April 24, 2015 in General Discussions. Now, I detest it. Speakers arent assigned to talk on mothers day, there is no gift, no refreshments, no day off from primary. No one tries to probe for subliminal meaning in the choice of Fat Boys. Why..thank you! She has your best interests at heart. We teach that you are basically good or even great (gods in embryo), that you are responsible for your actions and that you can actually make other people do what is right through prayer and works especially your children, that the sins you accumulate both those of commission and omission are entirely your fault, that Christ is not really in the middle of the picture until you really screw up and commit something unforgiveable like adultery and that you need to try harder to keep every one of those commandments or you are going to lose your reward of having a planet & of having eternal sex , and the celestial DFAC will snatch your children from you and destroy your perfect family sprouting from the buried nuts of polygamy where mother valently hoisted the impossible burdens. Is it callender time, number of posts, how irritated the host is with the comments! Inevitably they would be instructed that the gifts were for all women, so theyd try hard to give me one. This talk by Elaine S. Dalton helps fathers understand the importance of loving and cherishing the women in their life. Maybe. Theologies have consequences. Yes. Evry cry of pity heeding, Those who are solely focused on their own selfish desires? The sacrament provides an opportunity for Church members to ponder and remember with gratitude the life, ministry, and Atonement of the Son of God. Why are women so disenchanted with motherhood when we value it so highly? The primaries (100 of them? There are sins that need confessing; A year later he died in a car accident, and the children went back to mom, whose life was now very different. It is not that women want to be from Venus, but they want to be from Venus five universes beyond our own. Should we have days for every type of individual? Ere the sun goes down. Oh, and my husband is speaking in our ward this Mothers Day. Ere the sun goes down: President Eyringonce said that when he meets somebody for the first time, he assumes that person is struggling mightily with an intractable problem, and cannot see any possible solution. Usually chocolate, a plant or flower. Thanks, kc! I would love to avoid Mothers Day meetings, just because they are usually tedious, but I love to go for the sake of seeing my kids sing. Diversity and Unity in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Environmental Stewardship and Conservation, Joseph Smiths Teachings about Priesthood, Temple, and Women, Peace and Violence among 19th-Century Latter-day Saints, The Manifesto and the End of Plural Marriage, Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham. And out the door I flee. It was a one day break from the 40 day Lent cycle to give a feast in honor of Mom with cakes and flowers and her grown children visiting from afar. One year they handed out Sheri Dews talk Are We Not All Mothers? and I thought that was cool. I think this can be especially true for women who feel theyre just holding on. Oh, we also get candy bars with the flowers, music in sacrament and the 3rd hour social time. I was reading about the origins of Mothers Day. Many said not to assign "mother" or "female" focused messages in sacrament meeting, others said to keep your efforts simple as long as it is sincere. I wish that EVERY ward had a FD talk on what unrighteousness dominion is, and why it should be the job of every priesthood holder and father to raise sons who understand it and daughters who wont stand for it. So how does tax exemption relate to churches, and especially churches that [], You are so much more than the worst thing youve everdone., http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2008/04/daughters-of-god?lang=eng, http://dandelionmama.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/this-this-is-what-i-believe/, Inside the UK's Mormon missionary bootcamp - BBC, Former mayor, LDS bishop gets prison for child sex abuse - Salt Lake Tribune, The anti-racist Mormon trying to teach his fellow LDS church members - NPR, Mormon Church fined over claim it hid $32bn of investments - BBC, Linda King Newell, Feminist Scholar of Mormon History, Dies at 82 - The New York Times. I agree! I am a single (divorced) old man with no children. The main message I gathered from reviewing this survey is, keep it simple, dont try tohave specific female messages during the meetings, and then serve a fun refreshment in the third hourjust because. See also What to Expect at Church Services. So no one is left out. A cookie in a baggie? Gospel Q&A: Do We Really Have the Spirit With Us All the Time? I mean big ol gnarly wretch. She was not a perfect mother, but I loved her. Products; . Which meeting do you think would be more meaningful to the participants? http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2008/04/daughters-of-god?lang=eng, Ray (#58) Steve Ps post is evidence that a talk from 2007 which has been essentially corrected is still being recycled today. All In return, the Lord renews the promised remission of sin and enables Church members to always have his Spirit to be with them (Doctrine and Covenants 20:77). Not wordingthat well. The two adult speakers should center their talk on Jesus; if you want, assign a youth speaker to speak on Mothers, the Primary sings a song, and pass out the flower at the end. This morning I decided to Google search Mothers Day LDS talks and came upon this article. Food is the communication tool of choice for Latter Day Saints. There have been one or two General Conference talks in the last couple of years that briefly addressed that situation. #28 Love the song choice of I Have Work Enough To Do as a tribute. It was both simple and profound. Bear in mind thatmost of women in the congregation havelives that havent turned out the way they expected. Not using individual's names, I told stories of selfless service performed by sisters in our ward that I had observed during my time as bishop. Not at church anyway. Being there with my son was very nice. Theres got to be a way to show a little appreciation and recognize their importance and significance without it being guilt-inducing. Needless to say he was not asked to speak in sacrament meeting for a long, long time. Find another way to show appreciation to Mothers! So that no woman felt left out. Examples? This is something better done away with. My mother was an ideal, and she is schizophrenic, couldnt cook water without burning the pan, never cleaned a thing in the house while we were children, had rebellious to some degree or another, etc. She only did half the things a good mother would have done. I get really tired of hearing the stripling warrior passages on Mother's Day. I've done this in past years but always enjoy the new ideas from the participants here As I plan our Mother's Day Sacrament Meeting, what have been your favorite talk topics for Mother's Day? More importantly, what impact does this conscious attempt to devalue motherhood within our community have on the future of the family? I have nine children, eight grown, am temple divorced and remarried to a nomo. Gag. Last time I spoke on Mother's Day I was texting during my talk. Every week they strive to prepare for that sacred ordinance with a broken heart and a contrite spirit (see 3Nephi 9:20). Im against handing out plants on Mothers Day. The first speaker was my favorite. May 2011 was the best mothers day sacrament mtg Ive ever attended. Serious question for everyone, just out of true curiosity: How many of these horror stories happened in the last five years? Disciples should take this personal holiday to their own homes to celebrate it when and how they choose. Ere the sun goes down: I too am irritated by mother-worshipping in MD talks, but at the same time, I think many Mormon women identify so strongly with being a mother and so many have sacrificed just about everything to focus on that specific role, that they really appreciate a little validation, a little boost of confidence that what theyre doing is significant and has meaning. iPhone. The woman described her family as she was growing up. And, invariably, as soon as I would send one on his way, Im not a mother, thank you, another would pop up at my elbow, dutifully, kindly twisting the knife. There are diabetic men, arent there? How about we don't celebrate either at church, but celebrate it in our homes with our mothers and fathers? Ere the sun goes down, Beware the philosophies of Hallmark, mingled with scripture. Didn't Sheri Dew give a talk titled, "Are We Not All Mothers?" So for over a decade, Ive loved Mothers Day, just because I know it wont end with all of us crying. I was asked to speak 3 times on MD during my infertility phase. Just to be clear - I meant 'written/given' by women (aka musical number "O My Father" written by Eliza R Snow, conf talk by Reeve/Oscarson/Okazaki). I have had a lot of thoughts about Father's Day because my father passed away on May 23 about a month ago. She was a wonderful example for motherhood, womanhood, and peoplehood. I also have plenty of friends who are single sisters and they mourn growing older and menopause because they wont be able to have the children they want to hold and love. I give, is it supposed to be about mothers or not? I just dont like when they push the plant on me after Ive politely declined it. My favorite Mothers Day talk was my own talk. They do not need to be perfect in order to partake of the sacrament, but they should have a spirit of humility and repentance in their hearts. It was a nice meeting. However, I am concerned about the implications of a people where the female population dislikes the concept of motherhood or at least dislikes it enough that they do not want to celebrate Mother's Day. Because I know the real story so it is distracting from the fake one that they are giving. Gospel Q&A: How Can I Find and Foster Celestial Love? Mothers Day was open so I said ok, I will come up with something appropriate. Please know that it is worth it then, now, and forever.. Not a perfect example but I was striving for some other options besides stripling warriors moms. Thank you. The "Sacrament Meeting Program" app provides users a quick, easy way to create their sacrament meeting programs. As always, Kurt, I was happy to give you a hand with this! I am infertile, though I now have three children through adoption. Have a young child, a teenager, husband and elderly father take you through the different phases of motherhood in their own point of view. I exchanged the word "guidance " for the word " mothers " in this verse to help it go with the Mother's Day theme. Mothers Day theme, is the spirit is trying to witness to us at what a dumb idea it is. Gospel Q&A: My Children Have Left the Church & I Worry for Their Souls. We've gathered five inspiring gifts for Latter-day Saint women to help them feel cherished and celebrated. What do you think should be handed out for Mothers Day? Do you also not need an idea such as the Savior, your Father in Heaven or your Heavenly Mother? I must speak the loving word, Aleah is a graduate of Southern Virginia University, where she studied English, Creative Writing, and Dance. The only thing I might try if I were in charge would be to put out pink, white, red carnations and safety pins and invite everyone in the ward to wear a carnation to honor their mother pink/red if shes living, white if shes passed away. And, even worse, we are also cutting them off from the grace and redemption that Jesus offers. I hope Sunday goes well for you. Im not going tomorrow. Measure your words with that assumption in mind. So He can be ideal AND real. The greatest Mormon blog in the universe. If they give out a plant that I can put in the ground, Ill be sad to miss that, though. I do think a lot of Mormon women enjoy talks that validate their efforts at motherhood, and I think some of these talks get interpreted as angel mother talks when theyre really not. What do you think should be handed out for Mothers Day? Why was she an ideal? Im sorry too for the harshness In my expression in a previous thread regarding your views of sacrament meeting. It would be much easier for me to hear mothers day talks if they were real instead of ideal, though Id prefer a good sermon on Christ, instead. Can anyone say overdone? Thank you to everyone! I love that song but our ward music coordinator has musical numbers lined up already. The fathers dont seem to feel as guilty about things as the mothers do,,,. Ive taken as the Ward Music Chair person and conductor to pick hymns and have a couple special musical numbers, but does anyone have any ideas for a small token we could pass out to the men? In partaking of the sacrament and making these commitments, Church members renew the covenant they made at baptism (see Mosiah 18:810; Doctrine and Covenants 20:37). kc I love me some Pres. At a certain point, their best has to be enough. Our new bishop, for the last three years, gave no gift or acknowledgement. When I was bishop, my bishopric would always serve pie during the third hour and Id invite my mom to attend. #109 Rayloved the roller coaster quote on motherhood. I spoke one Mothers Day about Eve and Mary, and thought it was a good talk and well-received. Let us take as self-evident that, in reality, not all women are naturally pure or spiritual. Not necessarily mothersjust women. http://mormonartist.net/2012/02/day-three-jeanna-stay/. It falls short when it is not delivered with love, patience, acceptance, humility, an understanding of the limitations of REALITY, and the the Gift of the Holy Ghost. Have all the talks be by women. Because disciples can be wayward in their faith we should not celebrate Christmas because it causes too much pain in those who remain more faithful. 2 women spoke about motherhood. We speak about it nearly every Sunday. 34 Ideas for LDS Sacrament Meeting Talks When People Don't Apologize: Forgiving and finding reconciliation with God Would borrow from Forgiveness + Tribulation, a talk I gave fall 2019. Might spark some interesting conversations. 1 Dead, 1 Injured in Shooting During LDS Sacrament Meeting in Nevada. Great, and I was just asked to talk on Sunday, I guess I will be very careful. Sisters would come up to me and express that MD was hard for them also for various reasonsone was abused by her mother while another friend had lost a mother she loved as a teenager so cried all day long. Never heard it, but I would love somethingalong the lines ofwhat we can learn from Christ and his time with women. It hasnt yet. Others must be killed or theyll live forever, injuring regular folk. The Barker Brothers' Projects These videos were created for Latter-day Saint parents and allies to voice their love for their LGBT brothers and sisters, sons and daughters. Many said not to assignmother or female focused messages in sacrament meeting, others said to keep your effortssimple as long as it is sincere. Aiming for Heaven is again looking to the sinless for examples, not to an episode of Leave it to Beaver. I accidently hit the quote button and so nothing is there..you guys can fill in the blank.. My wife and I will be on an Alaska Cruise. They seemed to love the tradition and I never received negative feedback. For the injured interceding, Mother's Day: My talk by Kaimi Wenger May 5, 2009 23 Comments It's hard to strike the right balance, between affirming Moms who really need to be told that they made a good decision; and letting others (especially women) know that they're okay, too. I meant to type rebellious children in #90. Ugh ugh ugh. It might be that it was a holiday originally conceived by the US Socialist Party and propagated by the Soviets. MD is a day I prefer to play hookey, especially now that my mother is currently lost in alzheimers disease. I actually feel it is not so dissimilar on fathers day, particularly since the disparity between them can demean men. Some were difficult for metotell without choking up. I dont recall what the men are given on Fathers Day, but at one time in my ward they gave them nice ball point pens. So, yeah, how irritated the host is with the comments is pretty much it. He suffered for the sins, sorrows, and pains of all people, providing remission of sins for those who repent and live the gospel (see 2Nephi 9:2123). And dont even get me started on the Are We Not All Mothers tripe. It defines our very identity, our divine stature and nature, and the unique traits our Father gave us.. Not all women can become real mothers. Personally, I go to church to learn about Jesus and Christ like attributes. . Over 70 countries observe Mothers Day, but some of them still retain these spiritual roots whereas in the US its mostly a commercial holiday. I agree Ray. Im thankful for ideals even when I dont measure up not even often let alone all the time. Actually..mother's day should be everyday. Just a thought. Well at least I know what not to talk about. That cost a war pension. It isn't uncommon for LDS women to be dealing with some combination of the following factors: a difficult marriage, no marriage, no children, difficult children, health problems, loss of faith. I love your idea of wearing different color of flowers. After a lot of thought and prayer I called two sisters to speak on some of the blessings and also the challenges of raising children in the gospel. 1) Peanut butter sandwiches served with a smile tastes much better than the fanciest meal served with a side of stress. I should clarify that my mother (and father) are wonderful and I have no complaints. As for me, I will be sitting this Mothers day out. How can a father raise a happy, well-adjusted daughter in todays increasingly toxic world? Cant we just give praise and gratitude for the atonement, and human goodness and resiliance inspite its adversity and imperfection? Identifying ideals is somehow so treacherous for the psyches of women that that must never be mentioned? Further, that it wasnt the wards responsibility to celebrate the day. The first consideration is that you, the speaker, need to begin with your audience in mind. Didnt we predict this? Aleah Ingram May 3, 2021 Entertainment. Sorry I missed that. The speakers were: 70-year-old married sister w/ no children; mid-30s sister who works full-time, dh is the stay-at-home parent, and theyve adopted 2 children through the foster care system; and a single sister. Thanks for all your thoughts. I could brave baby showers and birth announcements just fine, but Mother's Day cut me to the core. Wow! This is the same reason we do not have missionary farewells any longer. Sadly, though, it probably caused a lot of pain to the listeners. I hope none of you mind if I quote from this. Get plenty HPs and Elders. 30 Inspiring LDS Quotes About Mothers & Motherhood, Church Leaders Honor Mothers Over the Holiday Weekend, Church Releases Tribute to Mothers, You Are Enough, FREE Happy Mothers Day Coloring Page Printable, The Family is a Divine Blessing | 6 March 2023, Come Follow Me Recap Thy Faith Hath Saved Thee | 5 March 2023, Miracles Come Through Fasting | 4 March 2023, Young Latter-day Saint Missionary Passes Away in Georgia, 5 Things You Didnt Know About the Day the LDS Church Was Organized. There is a *big* difference a HUGE difference between being *foreordained* to something and actually **BEING** something, as is made very clear in the temple. That bishop that moved his ward away from elaborate gifting was doing the right thing. People seemed to feel good about it but Mark is right about it being a fraught day. So He can be ideal AND real. What does that say about us as a people? So be kind to her. I get fed up listening every year to only men saying how wonderful their wives and mothers are. Im grateful for it. Im sure that attendance in RS would be higher on that day though. Just after she became a beehive, her mother had an affair. My worst MD talk came in the Fast and Testimony meeting the week before in which my father, who was visiting since he no longer lived in our ward, decided to give some incredibly intimate details about his divorce and why he blamed it on several of his children, but not others. Weve gathered this collection to help you study, write talks, and share powerful LDS quotes about mothers. Although I have the suspicion that he had an ulterior motive of hoping never to be asked to speak again. We got there at about 7:30 AM and one of my Aunts had already been there and left flowers for her. Doesn't it seem strange in a religion that supposedly is so family focused that we have people who ignore the cries of many of the women in church who want to be mothers and can't be or who sorrow over children who are not making good eternal choices?